10.08.08

Aces Discussion Nancy, Randy, and Denise pat, liz, alicia Kings Responses test123

Concept Beliefs Accomodation Fact Reorganization Assimilation Metacognition Scaffolding Connection Internalization Bestowed Availability/accessible Transparency Idea Misconception Transmission Transfer Within
 * Cognitive**

Activity(authentic) ZPD Cognitive apprenticeship Distributed Relationships LPP Enculturation Participation Society Experience Social Norms Community Interaction Collaboration Tools Jigsaw Method Historical Artifact Culture Transparency Motivation in society Shared "I did find it a little odd at first that the the work of Lave is deliberately not considering what this all has to say about schooling. After all, isn't that what this endeavor is all about - teaching and learning? It seems to me that this theory is only in abstract and is not yet on a concrete basis. The idea of LPP is a generalization that doesn't exist anywhere in the real world. It is even said that "that legitimate peripheral participation is not itself an educational form much less a pedagogical strategy or a teaching technique. It is an analytical viewpoint on learning, a way of understanding learning."
 * Situative**

Useful theories should inform the teacher/curriculum developer in a way that helps to better create situations that are authentic for students. It is with this in mind that physics education research has turned to asking the question; "what works and what doesn't?" rather than asking how." - Doug

"In my opinion individual and social learning processes can be jointly used in many different teaching styles, from entirely inquiry based labs to straight lecture. In either case students are presented info from their teacher or peers (social) and need to work out the solutions internally to fully understand the material (individual)." - Pat

Ultimately, I think it will be necessary to promote student engagement in multiple learning strategies, as well as to model desired behavior for them. When they've been exposed to multiple strategies they will begin to see how and when they are successful and can then integrate the strategies into their learning practices. - Carrie

[This quote captures my big idea - learning theory is not teaching theory]

One big question I have is how was the week off in terms of your ability to understand the material? Did you need to talk to others to make sense of your ideas? What are the code words use by cognitive and situative people? In Lave and Wenger what is learning?

However, a teacher (regardless of his or her level of expertise) is not in a position to complete a 'cycle of reproduction' with a student in a high school setting, where the novice can eventually fill the role of the master. - Jennifer

Do animals learn through LPP? After all they learn to fly, walk, hunt, attract mates, etc by means of apprenticeship. - Randy

Driver's, Constructing Knowledge, was a bit of a review of the learning theories that came before as was Pintrich's, but I did like the reference to learning not coming from reading a book but from being able to interpret the information. [typical of research discourse - put yourself into the literature] - Randy

Here we are reading and reading theories from the past and we can see how some have shaped our present and how some have been washed away by new concepts and technologies. It makes me sit and think about all of the brain power that goes into new concepts and theories just to be erased a few decades later. I know without the old there would be no new, but how humbling a thought. - Alicia

To me it seems like the right half of Table 7.1 could be our syllabus. I absolutely see the value of this style of learning as it truly promote understanding as there are very few absolute truths to unearth in the topic of science education. However, I would question its effectiveness in a secondary education environment. It seems like their example providing a great experience for students to explore a subject (hibernation), however when you have one (maybe two) years to introduce students to the entirety of a scientific field, I don't know how a three day exploration of a single topic can allow for the necessary breadth. - Pat

 Although, like all progressive curriculum, it would be difficult to enact in the current school system, I thought that their proposition neatly avoided many of the problems that we've discussed in class. - Cecilia

 It would also seem to be easier to incorporate into schools than full enculturation. You could have students on the periphery by doing occasional field trips or guest speakers. In this way teaching could remain traditional while still adding material for developing the students into a culture.  - Shane

Where I get frustrated is that very few of those articles actually give practical suggestions on how to implement their theories. Lave and Wenger did just that. - Andy

had difficulty in comprehending this theory in relation to "facts" like those learned in schools. Although this may be more a reflection of the current school system than Lave's assertions, I thought that the theory fit much better with my understandings of learning skills versus learning concepts. - Cecilia

 I think it would be important to build on that authentic activity and expose students to the scientific community of [insert specific discipline]. Examples of this exposure (simply off the top of my head) could include special field trip or inviting professionals into the classroom. - Carrie

Brown states, "How this is done is difficult to describe and equally difficult to transmit to novice teachers except through demonstration, modeling, and guided feedback. Expert teachers claim to recognize 'it' when they see it. But what is it?" - Jennifer

While it is incredibly fascinating to see where students take things, and wonderful when students are engaged enough to care, there are state learning standards that need to be addressed. What is the teachers' role in hitting those standards? Do we trade covering the standards for fostering interest in the students? ... While I love the idea behind the jigsaw method and think it would be an excellent way to encourage peer teaching and responsibility for individual learning, what about the students that don't care?- Allison